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I tried fiddling around with the timeout in apache and the timeout
in genieacs but nothing changed, a new refreshObject task is started
every ~20-30 seconds.<br>
<br>
From what I can gather the default timeout in apache is 60 seconds
so the default there is higher than the default in genieacs so I
would think it would have worked when I was using the defaults if
that was the problem.<br>
<br>
Here's my current genieacs config (in case i'm doing something wrong
there)<br>
{<br>
"MONGODB_CONNECTION_URL" : "mongodb://127.0.0.1/genieacs",<br>
"REDIS_PORT" : "6379",<br>
"REDIS_HOST" : "127.0.0.1",<br>
"CWMP_INTERFACE" : "0.0.0.0",<br>
"CWMP_PORT" : 7547,<br>
"CWMP_SSL" : false,<br>
"NBI_INTERFACE" : "0.0.0.0",<br>
"NBI_PORT" : 7557,<br>
"FS_INTERFACE" : "0.0.0.0",<br>
"FS_PORT" : 7567,<br>
"FS_IP" : "127.0.0.1",<br>
"LOG_INFORMS" : false,<br>
"DEBUG" : false,<br>
"SESSION_TIMEOUT": 120,<br>
"GET_PARAMETER_NAMES_DEPTH_THRESHOLD":3<br>
}<br>
<br>
Apache 2 virtual hosts:<br>
<VirtualHost 19X.XXX.XXX.163:80><br>
ServerName tr069.domain.com<br>
LogLevel debug<br>
TransferLog /var/log/apache2/tr069.domain.com.access.log<br>
ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/tr069.domain.com.err.log<br>
<br>
ProxyPreserveHost On<br>
ProxyPass / <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://127.0.0.1:7547/">http://127.0.0.1:7547/</a><br>
ProxyPassReverse / <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://127.0.0.1:7547/">http://127.0.0.1:7547/</a><br>
ProxyTimeout 125<br>
</VirtualHost><br>
<br>
<VirtualHost 19X.XXX.XXX.163:443><br>
ServerName tr069.domain.com <br>
LogLevel debug<br>
TransferLog /var/log/apache2/tr069.domain.com -https.access.log<br>
ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/tr069.domain.com -https.err.log<br>
<br>
ProxyPreserveHost On<br>
ProxyPass / <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://127.0.0.1:7547/">http://127.0.0.1:7547/</a><br>
ProxyPassReverse / <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://127.0.0.1:7547/">http://127.0.0.1:7547/</a><br>
ProxyTimeout 125<br>
<br>
SSLEngine on<br>
SSLProxyEngine on<br>
SSLProtocol all -SSLv2 -SSLv3<br>
SSLCompression off<br>
SSLHonorCipherOrder on<br>
SSLCipherSuite
ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:AES256-GCM-SHA384:AES128-GCM-SHA256:AES256-SHA256:AES128-SHA256:AES256-SHA:AES128-SHA:DES-CBC3-SHA:HIGH:!aNULL:!eNULL:!EXPORT:!DES:!MD5:!PSK:!RC4<br>
<br>
SSLCertificateFile /path/to/file<br>
SSLCertificateKeyFile /path/to/file<br>
</VirtualHost><br>
<br>
<br>
Here's what 2 minutes of the CWMP log look like:<br>
<br>
26 Jul 15:07:27 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX774: Started
task refreshObject(57977caf07dd24b4396584da)<br>
26 Jul 15:07:30 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX759: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca207dd24b4396584d8)<br>
26 Jul 15:07:30 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S140YXXXXX543: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca307dd24b4396584d9)<br>
26 Jul 15:07:35 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX742: Started
task refreshObject(57977cb7f657a9b139838f1e)<br>
26 Jul 15:07:47 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S140YXXXXX543: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca307dd24b4396584d9)<br>
26 Jul 15:07:47 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX774: Started
task refreshObject(57977caf07dd24b4396584da)<br>
26 Jul 15:07:50 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX759: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca207dd24b4396584d8)<br>
26 Jul 15:07:54 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX742: Started
task refreshObject(57977cb7f657a9b139838f1e)<br>
26 Jul 15:08:01 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S140YXXXXX543: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca307dd24b4396584d9)<br>
26 Jul 15:08:07 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX774: Started
task refreshObject(57977caf07dd24b4396584da)<br>
26 Jul 15:08:10 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX759: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca207dd24b4396584d8)<br>
26 Jul 15:08:13 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX742: Started
task refreshObject(57977cb7f657a9b139838f1e)<br>
26 Jul 15:08:18 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S140YXXXXX543: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca307dd24b4396584d9)<br>
26 Jul 15:08:26 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX759: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca207dd24b4396584d8)<br>
26 Jul 15:08:28 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX774: Started
task refreshObject(57977caf07dd24b4396584da)<br>
26 Jul 15:08:31 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX742: Started
task refreshObject(57977cb7f657a9b139838f1e)<br>
26 Jul 15:08:34 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S140YXXXXX543: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca307dd24b4396584d9)<br>
26 Jul 15:08:45 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX759: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca207dd24b4396584d8)<br>
26 Jul 15:08:47 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX774: Started
task refreshObject(57977caf07dd24b4396584da)<br>
26 Jul 15:08:51 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX742: Started
task refreshObject(57977cb7f657a9b139838f1e)<br>
26 Jul 15:08:53 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S140YXXXXX543: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca307dd24b4396584d9)<br>
26 Jul 15:09:03 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX759: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca207dd24b4396584d8)<br>
26 Jul 15:09:06 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX774: Started
task refreshObject(57977caf07dd24b4396584da)<br>
26 Jul 15:09:11 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX742: Started
task refreshObject(57977cb7f657a9b139838f1e)<br>
26 Jul 15:09:11 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S140YXXXXX543: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca307dd24b4396584d9)<br>
26 Jul 15:09:23 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX759: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca207dd24b4396584d8)<br>
26 Jul 15:09:26 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX774: Started
task refreshObject(57977caf07dd24b4396584da)<br>
26 Jul 15:09:26 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S140YXXXXX543: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca307dd24b4396584d9)<br>
26 Jul 15:09:32 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX742: Started
task refreshObject(57977cb7f657a9b139838f1e)<br>
26 Jul 15:09:40 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX759: Started
task refreshObject(57977ca207dd24b4396584d8)<br>
26 Jul 15:09:43 - XXXXXXX -VMG1312%2DB10A-S130YXXXXX774: Started
task refreshObject(57977caf07dd24b4396584da)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/26/2016 11:20 AM, Steve Hawkes
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
HTTP timeout in Genie is the
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt">SESSION_TIMEOUT setting
in the config file. The observation that devices talking
direct to Genie work fine suggests that the HTTP timeout in
Apache is much less.
<br>
I think Genie defaults to 30 seconds. When I started working
with our copy of Genie I think it was set to 300 seconds
which is probably a bit excessive.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I did go
through the debug dump file to see how long each section of
the tree took to transfer but I cannot remember what the
longest one was now! :o<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Yak</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext" lang="EN-US"> Users
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:users-bounces@lists.genieacs.com">mailto:users-bounces@lists.genieacs.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Grímur Daníelsson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 26 July 2016 11:36<br>
<b>To:</b> Community support for GenieACS users
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:users@lists.genieacs.com"><users@lists.genieacs.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Automatic refreshObject task is
never removed from task queue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Do you know the default HTTP timeout in
GenieACS? Or if I can configure the HTTP timeout somewhere?
Changing the timeout in apache is no problem if I know what to
change it to.<br>
<br>
Regards, Grímur<br>
<br>
On 07/26/2016 09:12 AM, Steve Hawkes wrote:<br>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi
Grimur,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
behaviour you are describing is what seems to happen when
the HTTP connection has timed out. My guess would be
config change in Genie is holding the HTTP connection open
for longer to Apache but Apache has its own time out
setting so it is dropping the connection before the ZyXEL
has replied.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Unfortunately
my knowledge of Apache is close to zero so I do not know
how to configure it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Yak</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext" lang="EN-US"> Users [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:users-bounces@lists.genieacs.com">mailto:users-bounces@lists.genieacs.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Grímur Daníelsson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 22 July 2016 11:43<br>
<b>To:</b> Community support for GenieACS users <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:users@lists.genieacs.com">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: Automatic refreshObject task is
never removed from task queue</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">This seems
to somehow be related to apache which I'm using as a reverse
proxy in front of genieacs.<br>
<br>
If I configure my devices to talk to genieacs directly the
tasks are finished properly.<br>
<br>
Does anyone have an example config for apache that works
with genieacs? Or is apache not suitable for this purpose?<br>
<br>
Regards, Grímur<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 07/22/2016 09:03 AM, Grímur
Daníelsson wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Unfortunately
this made no difference. The refreshObject tasks still
aren't showing up as completed and CPEs are still
informing every 20-30 seconds.<br>
<br>
The odd thing is that I'm getting "Started task" in the
log for the same devices every ~15 seconds. So it's as if
the refreshObject task is failing and restarting but I get
no faulty tasks.<br>
<br>
I also occasionally get these errors in the error log
"xmlMallocBreakpoint reached on block 0" but it does not
happen that regularly. Only every couple of hours.<br>
<br>
Regards, Grímur<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 07/21/2016 05:03 PM, Dan Morphis
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I had to set <span style="font-size:10.0pt">GET_PARAMETER_NAMES_DEPTH_THRESHOLD</span> to
3, and <span style="font-size:10.0pt">SESSION_TIMEOUT
to 120</span> for the ZyXel stuff to work. Try that.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 7:20 AM,
Grímur Daníelsson <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:grimurd@snerpa.is" target="_blank">grimurd@snerpa.is</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Yak<br>
<br>
I had tried setting
GET_PARAMETER_NAMES_DEPTH_THRESHOLD set to 3
without success.<br>
<br>
As per your suggestion i tried setting the
session timeout first to 60 seconds, then to 120
seconds and reducing the depth threshold to 2.
But that didn't make any difference. Some
routers seemed to take<br>
longer between informs but others still seems to
contact the ACS every 30 seconds.<br>
<br>
How much did you raise the session timeout to?<br>
<br>
Regards, Grimur <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 07/21/2016 02:16 PM,
Steve Hawkes wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi
Grimur,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We
have had a similar issue with
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt">VMG1312s.
We increased the SESSION_TIMEOUT and
changed the
GET_PARAMETER_NAMES_DEPTH_THRESHOLD
to 2 so it does the tree in sections.
Trying to get the whole tree on 1312s
seems to take for ever and Genie give
up waiting.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I did try
setting the
GET_PARAMETER_NAMES_DEPTH_THRESHOLD to
3 but though it worked it was
marginally slower to get through the
whole tree.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Yak</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Grímur
Daníelsson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 21 July 2016 10:11<br>
<b>To:</b> Community support for
GenieACS users <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:users@lists.genieacs.com">
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:users@lists.genieacs.com"><users@lists.genieacs.com></a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Automatic
refreshObject task is never
removed from task queue</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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everyone<br>
<br>
I'm having problems with the
refreshObject tasks on our CPEs. <br>
<br>
The tasks never seem to be completed
and because of that it looks to me
like the CPEs are being hammered by
refresh requests from genieacs.
<br>
I have set the inform interval to 900
seconds but in spite of that they seem
to be informing every 15-30 seconds at
least. This stops when I<br>
remove the refreshObject task from the
queue manually and they go back to
informing at regular intervals. If I
refresh the CPE manually<br>
through the GUI it refreshes
sucessfully and the task is removed
without problems.<br>
There are no faults in the faults tab
in the GUI.<br>
This seems to happen on all types of
CPEs. We got a few Zyxel CPEs and this
happens to all of them. VMG1312-B10A,
VMG8924-B10A and P-870HN-51b.<br>
<br>
There are no errors to speak of in the
genieacs error log. Tailing the
console log shows a non-stop stream of
"Started task refreshObject()" but
nothing else out of the ordinary.<br>
<br>
I'm completely stuck, anyone know what
the problem could be?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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